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The Home of Alcoholics Anonymous – How It Works

This here’s a story about a man named Bill, a pitiful hustler who founded a religious cult that demands his followers forever refer to themselves with negative affirmations.  People like David Koresh, Sun Myung Moon, Joseph Di Mambro, L Ron Hubbard, Frank Buchman, Claude Vorilhon, Shoko Asahara, Charles Manson and Jim Jones, have so little to offer the world, they must find a way to make themselves more important than others … they must find a way to make themselves into Gurus.  They attract other guru-wannabes and desperate followers to ensure their cult grows and prospers.  They also have strict, non-negotiable, all-or-nothing principles for their followers for which they themselves are not required, (nor are their fellow old-timer-wannabe gurus), to adhere.  Their ‘home’ is beyond reproach, and they are beyond criticism.  Fools gold made to look like Texas Tea.

The most brilliant of these cult is commonly known as Alcoholics Anonymous, and their guru is William Griffith Wilson  (November 26, 1895 – January 24, 1971).  By ‘brilliant,’ I mean a cult beyond mass suicides and mass murders.  Their ‘brilliance’ exists in the brainwashing of members into killing their independent thought, and inability to take responsibility for ones actions following the brainwashing.  They are required to recruit others to their cult and convert them to their way of life.  The ‘brilliance’ also exists in the longevity of the AA cult, and the cultural hold the manipulation has to the principles of the cult. The cult known as the ’12 Steps’ has managed to scam the American justice system into illegally mandating people to attend their cult meetings.

Although this mandating is a breach of one’s constitutional rights based on the 1st Amendment’s Establishment Clause, it is practiced every day, even on a first time DUI offender, or a teen who is not safe in this cult.  Even more ‘brilliant,’ is the tradition of ‘anonymity.’  This ‘anonymity’ ensures that the leaders are never held responsible for the sexual abuse and deviant crimes perpetuated everyday on vulnerable newcomers.  This ‘anonymity’ also provides a criminal the protection to continue abusing others when other cult members hide the truth, even in the many cases of rape, rape of a minor, or confession of a murder.  The tradition of keeping clear of ‘outside issues’ gives members carte blanche for horrible behavior and unreported crimes.  There have been countless examples of police investigations which turn up with no witnesses that later, with a subpoena, turn into criminal cases.  Thankfully however, recently in the home of AA, Akron Ohio, there are members who are no longer hiding behind this ‘anonymity.’  This story is the main topic of this article.  But first, a bit of history.

WILSON CULT LONE RANGER

The photo above was taken in 1942 in Dayton, Ohio where members of Alcoholics Anonymous donned masks in an attempt to protect their anonymity.  This looks more like grown men in a fantasy play to the Lone Ranger.  The Lone Ranger was a fictional character who fought injustice in the American Old West, first brought to us on a 1933 radio show.
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The Lone Ranger and his horse ‘Silver.’

However, this feeble attempt at anonymity, and fantasy hero role-playing, was trashed eight years later in the picture below.

WILSON 1950

They are all clearly identifiable in this picture taken during a conference in 1950.

How did these men come together, why, and what kind of men invented this cult fellowship called Alcoholics Anonymous?  First of all, Bill Wilson, like his guru brothers, was a washed-up hustler, a liar and a cheat.  Bill Wilson attracted liars and cheats to join him.  You see, that is how life works.  What we put out into the world, we get back … and then some.  It is simply the law of attraction.  Alcoholics Anonymous claims to be about attraction rather than promotion, but this is just another lie to avoid responsibility for criminal behavior and complete avoidance of responsibility for changing one’s behavior at all.

Some time in 1934, a guy named William Griffith Wilson claimed to be newly-sober after a divine revelation brought him a moment of clarity that demanded he ask for help.  He found the beliefs of cult leader Frank Buchman,  (June 4, 1878 – August 7, 1961), best known as Dr. or Rev. Frank Buchman.  Buchman was a Protestant Christian Evangelist who founded the Oxford Group (known as Moral Re-Armament from 1938 until 2001, and as Initiatives of Change since then).  They called themselves ‘Buchmanites.’  Bill Wilson found the Oxford Group principles to be just what he needed.  They are:

1) Admission of personal defeat. (You are a defeated sinner).
2) Taking of personal inventory. (List your sins, to whom they were committed, and your part in them)
3) Confession of one’s sins to another person. (A person unqualified to be trusted or helpful)
4) Making amends to those one has harmed. (Even if these people do not want you anywhere near them or their family)
5) Helping others selflessly. (Which is an oxymoron since all these precepts are meant to help you and only you)
6) Praying to God for guidance and the power to put these precepts into practice. (Selfish prayer rather than taking action to make behavioral changes)

One 12 Step requirement not included in the above list is the practice of recruiting others to the group.  Actually, many Oxford Group believers would say, “It is there in number five. Converting people to the right religious ‘principles’, so that they can get into heaven along with you. Working all day long to get new converts for the Group is ‘helping others selflessly.'” In fact, because the Oxford Groups and Moral Re-Armament had an official policy of never dispensing charity to anybody (nice religion), recruiting more people into the cult was the only way that the Buchmanites ever “helped others selflessly”.

Another 12 step requirement not included in the list is turning one’s will and life over to the care of God.  The Big Book of AA refers to God as “a power greater that yourself” or a God ‘of your own understanding” but they are not fooling anyone.  They will claim that one can make anything their higher power, even a doorknob. (I wish I were kidding). They will even claim to an agnostic or atheist that they can make the group itself their higher power: Group Of Drunks. (Again, I wish I were kidding).  Wilson, when plagiarizing the 12 steps from the Oxford principles, decided to soften the references to God so as to attract the most followers possible.  They are talking about the Frank Buckman God, or more accurately, Frank Buckman as God. The Oxford Group is nothing more than a religious cult that was created by a deceitful fascist renegade Lutheran minister: Buchman. Buchman was a dogmatic fanatic who actually thanked heaven for giving us Adolf Hitler, and praised Heinrich Himmler as “a great lad”.

Similarly, Bill Wilson was nothing more than a Wall Street hustler who lied about once being a prosperous stock broker.  He just sat down, in December of 1938, and wrote up twelve commandments for the new religious group that he and fellow alcoholics Doctor Robert Smith and Clarence Snyder had started. As stated above, those commandments were simply a repackaged version of the practices of the cult religion that was popular at that time, the Oxford Group. In fact, Wilson and his cronies were asked to leave the Oxford Group.  Bill Wilson, Dr. Robert Smith, and Clarence Snyder had all been enthusiastic, true-believer members of Frank Buchman’s Oxford Group cult religion, but the other group members asked Bill to leave, and to take his slimy alcoholics with him because Bill was spending too much time with his alcoholics, and not enough time following the dictates of the cult leader, Frank Buchman.  Wilson had to make himself into a guru since he was incapable of following anyone other than himself.  It must have been humiliating to be asked to leave the Oxford Group, but it gave Wilson the chance to lift the principles of Oxford and present them as his own.

At home, Bill Wilson’s treatment of his wife Lois can only be described as cold, cruel, vindictive, and heartless. Bill Wilson cheated on Lois with many different women, both before, during, and after sobriety. He even cheated on her while she worked in Loesser’s department store to support him. “I’m going to a meeting” was often a double-entendre when Bill Wilson said it. Bill actually invented the old A.A. tradition of Thirteenth Stepping the pretty women who come to A.A. meetings seeking help for alcoholism. (First you teach them the Twelve Steps, and then you take them to the bedroom and teach them the Thirteenth Step….).  This is where this story comes home to March of 2013.

Thirteenth Stepping in Alcoholics Anonymous and all other off-shoots of 12 Step cults, is a euphemistic term for sexually preying on women, (and sometimes women on men or same sex abuses), in the ‘rooms’ of AA.  Go to any AA meeting or ask anyone who is in AA about 13th stepping and they will confirm it is alive and well.  They will also most likely justify this behavior by mocking the practice or minimizing the problem, stating that those who are being ’13th stepped’ are consenting adults and know what they are doing.  They will claim that they cannot get involved because 13th stepping is considered an ‘outside issue.’  Those of us who are exposing the truth of the 12 Steps reject this sick rationalization.

First of all, anyone, regardless of age, who first comes into this ‘program’ for help is at their most vulnerable.  People who are new in this program are looking for help and are usually willing to do whatever they are told to do as long as it is presented as a solution.  Second, young people are vulnerable to older people, especially young women to older men.  The older men know exactly what they are doing and there are countless stories of older men taking sexual advantage of younger women.  The most disgusting of these stories is the one called the Midtown Group in Washington, DC where 16 and 17-year-old girls were required, for their 5th Step, to have sex with the older men in the group.  They were also reported to require members stop taking doctor prescribed medications, even after suicides were reported from this dangerous practice.  This advice to stop taking doctor prescribed medications is a rampant problem throughout 12 step groups. Apparently they feel that taking medication of any kind makes one ‘not sober.’   AAWS (Alcoholics Anonymous World Services) has acknowledged the problem of asking members to stop taking prescribed medications, but refuses to do anything about it.  It is, again, considered to be an ‘outside issue.’

Those of us working to inform the public about the dangers of this cult disagree: when someone confesses to a sponsor or aloud in a meeting to a crime, this is an inside issue.  Recently, in both the Paridise Club (Cuyahoga Falls, OH) and the Interval Brotherhood Home (Akron, Ohio), there have been confessions of criminal activity.  According to my many sources, a fellow by the name of ‘Bruce’ has confessed to the rapes one 8-year-old girl and one 12-year-old girl.  He also confessed to being part of murdering a woman known as ‘Naya.’

According to my many sources, Bruce was dating a woman (‘Ann Marie’), whom he met in the group.  Ann Marie is a single working mom with 6 children, 4 of which are daughters.  Everyone in the group knew that he was cheating on Ann Marie and yet she was the last to know.  Bruce has, for a very long time, been an active member in the AA and NA (Narcotics Anonymous) community in Akron, Ohio.  A source known as ‘Tim’ claimed to have seen Bruce target new, young women who came to Paridise Club and the Internal Brotherhood Club for help.  “I saw him on many occasions taking young women, minors, for rides on his motorcycle, and then brag about getting them to clean his apartment for $40.  He would then have sex with them when he had them under his control.”  Tim states that there are many people who saw Bruce preying on any new, young woman he could get his hands on.  According to my sources, Bruce confessed in public at both the Paridise Club and to the Board of Directors at the Interval Brotherhood Home, to being a sex addict who had turned to alcohol.  He confessed that he was still struggling with sex addiction and was constantly masturbating to pictures of young girls. He even confessed to a co-worker that he wanted to have sex with her and was obsessed with fantasies of her.

According to Tim, these groups use their traditions to avoid responsibility. But this group based in the home of Alcoholics Anonymous, have written their own tradition based on the 13th Step “Tradition 13 – The welfare and sobriety of the group and fellowship far outweighs the sobriety of ANY individual. If the actions of any individual, both legal or illegal, jeopardize the sobriety of another, especially newcomers, the group owes the individual actions to protect their sobriety up to and including banishment from the fellowship for offenders. Individual counseling is recommended for such unfortunates.”  Bruce has yet to be banished.  In fact, Bruce has yet to be arrested or even investigated by law enforcement.  According to Tim, Bruce resigned from the Paridise Club with a large group in attendance.  Tim reports, “At which I, ‘Tim’, witnessed and will swear under oath that ‘Bruce’ did confess to sexually harassing the current and former employees. Did confess to being a sexual predator using his authority to gain access to opportunities to prey on women at their weakest moments including the minor children of ‘Samantha’ and ‘Ann Marie’. And the Board Members present did witness the same event and did nothing to report nor remedy the situation developing from said resignation meeting.”

What was the response of the members of the board present at this confession?  They claimed that Ann Marie should not have stayed with Bruce and that all these confessions were a matter of  his ‘character defects.’  Character defects in 12 step groups are a ‘get-away-with-any-crime’ card.  According to these groups, an alcoholic has a sick soul that cannot ever be mended and can only be controlled by being a member of the group.  Since your soul is sick and there is no cure, you are not responsible for your behavior and only another alcoholic can understand you.  Therefore, since this group is your only chance for survival and the greatest accomplishment of your life, your peers will defend you no matter what you do.  Sounds like the perfect environment for predators and convicted felons does it not?

This is How It Works.  They will tell you that ‘how it works’ is following their path, working the steps, practicing ‘rigorous honesty’ etc, etc.  This is all a lie.  The true way it works is this: Members harbor the truth and the criminal activities of those who should not be trusted around your daughters or yourself or even your dog.  This is such a common story, it is no surprise to those of us who work to expose the truth.  Ann Marie, Tim and my other sources are working on it together.  They are very generous with their updates of the situation and I thank them for trusting me with this information.  I have encouraged Ann Marie to file a restraining order against Bruce.  He is full of character defects no doubt, but more accurately, he is full of nothing but excuses and has found the perfect group of people in which to hide and lie and continue to abuse women and children.  Members of this group are incapable of ‘rigorous honesty.’

Ann Marie had been diagnosed with cancer and shortly after her diagnosis, the truth of Bruce’s past and present came to light.  She broke up with him, and he promptly admitted to the group that he was praying for her death so that he could have sex with her daughters.  That was the last straw.  Since my first conversation with Ann Marie, Bruce has threatened her and her daughters repeatedly.  One evening he decided that he would vandalize and steal from her car (he has the spare key).  She spent hours filling out a report at the police station. She has promised me to keep me up to date on the ongoing story, as have my other contacts.

The members of the group continue to cover up and make excuses for Bruce.  “They even tried to throw out there that my cancer has added a great deal of stress on Bruce and caused his heart and mind to be all twisted up.  This one lady even said I need to not over think Bruce praying me dead in hopes to be with one of my daughters; it’s his way of still being connected to a healthy me. Now that’s sick! You are correct I need to get Angry, Mad, Empowered, using it to Speak out … Loudly and Boldly. They may not like what I have to say, but it needs said. I am driven with a pure heart to stand up for what is right. As well as what needs to be STOPPED! Not just with Bruce’s actions, he’s just one example of the sick, immoral UNACCEPTABLE things going on in the rooms.”
– Ann Marie.

As I said in the beginning of this article,  what we put out into the world, we get back … and then some.  It is simply the law of attraction.  It is akin to a marriage that starts off with a big lie… this marriage is doomed to fail.  The marriage may last for a long time, but to begin under a deception, the only place to go is more snowball deceptions until the marriage implodes.  Bill Wilson and all the wannabe lone rangers began this group with nothing but lies.  This group attracts people like Bruce as flies to a horses ass.  This is just one of hundreds of criminal stories coming from the cult invented by the likes of guru Bill Wilson, or Bill Wilson as God. Most of these stories go unreported and are swept under the table with the excuses of ‘anonymity’ and ‘outside issues.’

No more.  I say, along with a growing number of enlightened people, No More. Most people do not have the moxie and confidence (especially if they have been indoctrinated) to expose the truth and dangers of this cult.  Even in the ‘home’ of the 12 Step Cult of Akron, Ohio … the predators attracted by the legacy of Guru Bill Wilson, are alive and well.
Thank you to all of you brave souls who have come forth with this important story. More will be revealed, whether the disciples of 12 Step cults like it or not.

Some research links:

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-cult_a0.html
http://nadaytona.org/
http://stinkin-thinkin.com/
http://peele.net/

http://cougarblogger.com/
http://www.silkworth.net/chs/index.html

http://stop13stepinaa.wordpress.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanton-peele/addiction-myths_b_1928239.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stanton-peele/problems-with-aa_b_989832.html

37 comments on “The Home of Alcoholics Anonymous – How It Works

  1. just read your enlightening article. I do want to follow up. Can you give me contact information for the “source” I need to get in touch with?
    Carl Monday/WOIO/Cleveland

    • I have left you a voicemail with all the contact information available with permission from my source. Thank you for following up with this important story. Also, if you need more stories of this nature, there is no shortage and I can point you in the right direction. Thank you.

  2. Excellent article Laura! Good research. It is incredible that Bill W. has been able to turn the treatment of addiction upside down and successfully hinder the needed research for alternative treatments. Even though there are others that to do not promote 12 step- it is very difficult world to navigate in the present addiction treatment world.

  3. Very Powerful article Laura! So many are being harmed by this anonymity BS, and
    I plan to help in any way that I can to make the judges see
    The truth on what’s happening with these predictors being mandated to
    Meetings.

    • They can hide but they can’t stop us from exposing them. Thanks for commenting Beth!

      • Very important article. This has all the components of the horror that exists in AA today. Let’s think of the numbers. In every city in every state in the USA today this is happening times 10!!! …every day. These sick creeps are getting food fed to them. It has to be stopped!!! thank you for the work you are doing.

  4. Opps, predators !

  5. My my lord! I stumbled upon this page while searching the web for Founders Dat 2013 information . I was recently in the Paridise Club in Cuyahoga Falls and had a very uncomfortable situation happen. I was approached by this guy named Vince , he was very forward in his inappropriate sexual suggestions to me. As if that wasn’t enough ,he offered me money to clean his apartment. I was so uncomfortable I left. The disturbing encounter stuck with me for days.

    • THIS IS THE MAN WRITTEN ABOUT IN MY ARTICLE!!!! STAY AWAY FROM HIM! Please contact me on email to talk further. Ldyluk47@yahoo.com

      Thank you so much for confirming the validity of this story. I am so sorry you had this horrible experience. It is far too common and is normally not reported to anyone … And if it is it is minimized in this ‘program’ and the perpetrator is allowed to carry on with his sick life at the expense of all the women ‘in the rooms.’

      Please email me. I will keep your confidentiality.

  6. Reblogged this on cougarblogger.

  7. This story is unconscionable.

    Have any newspapers been contacted? Maybe an alternative newspaper like the Cleveland Scene, would take this story & run with it.

    • Thank you for commenting. Not is it only unconscionable, it is also common. Very common. Most times these crimes go unreported or if they are reported, the victim is told to forgive and ‘find their part’ in it.

      I will send it to the Cleveland Scene. Thank you. Carl Monday has expressed interest. Feel free to share it with anyone. Thanks again for commenting.

    • This is possible. Maybe send it to smaller papers. The NYT and the LA times have steppers running them so they won’t print the truth. But smaller cities have bigger balls !!!! The the Herald Examiner printed in the headlines. Toddler Molested at an AA meeting. in Bellingham Washington !!! You go Cougarblogger!

      • Yeah, steppers have been manipulating the media for as long as the cult has been in existence. They send letters to the media thanking them for their continued cooperation in keeping their tradition of harboring criminals from public domain. Here’s the link for the letter to the media. Looks like the last time they sent one out was in April of 2014. Assholes. ; )

        For whatever reason, the link does not want to work. Here is the letter:

        April 2014

        ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS
        A NOTE OF THANKS – A REQUEST FOR CONTINUED COOPERATION
        From time to time we write our public media friends to thank them for helping us observe our long-standing tradition of anonymity for members of Alcoholics Anonymous.

        First, let us express our deep gratitude to you. From the beginning of A.A. in 1935, its members have recognized that word-of-mouth is not sufficient by itself to carry the program’s message of hope and recovery to the many people still suffering from alcoholism. The public media has been a vital part of this effort, and today we estimate that there are more than 2 million successfully recovering members of Alcoholics Anonymous in more than 180 countries.

        Second, we respectfully request that you continue to cooperate with us in maintaining the anonymity of A.A. members. The principle of anonymity is a basic tenet of our fellowship. Those who are reluctant to seek our help may overcome their fear if they are confident that their anonymity will be respected. In addition, and perhaps less understood, our tradition of anonymity acts as a restraint on A.A. members, reminding us that we are a program of principles, not personalities, and that no individual A.A. member may presume to act as a spokesman or leader of our fellowship. If an A.A member is identified in the media, we ask that you please use first names only (e.g., Bob S. or Alice F.) and that you not use photographs or electronic images in which members’ faces may be recognized.

        Again, we thank you for your continued cooperation. Those who wish to know more about our fellowship are welcome to visit the “For the Media” section of AA.org. Our fellowship does not comment on matters of public controversy, but we are happy to provide information about A.A. to anyone who seeks it.

        Sincerely,

        Public Information Committee
        of Alcoholics Anonymous
        For Media, contact: publicinfo@aa.org

  8. Great article! Cannot thank you enough for writing this, as I was raped by my sponsor at my most vulnerable when I first came out about my drug problem and was trying to get help to move forward. This resonates very, very strongly with my experiences.

    • Sounds as if you have put this horrible crime against you where it belongs, as something that happened to you but does is not allowed to define you. Your forthright manner is a good sign. This cult religion commonly known as the 12 steps attracts violent offenders with the promise of protection. They should not be protected of course but since the entire cult was written and sold by a criminal, it can only attract more just like him. I am very sorry that at your most vulnerable state, you were a victim of this sick fuck. You are helping others by voicing your truth here. Who knows how many people will read this and stay away rather than ‘keep coming back’ or advised (seriously?!) to ‘look at their part.’ Diabolical. Thank you very much for commenting.

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    http://12stepprograms.weebly.com/additional-resources.html

  10. There is someone I’ve been uncomfortable around in mtgs. @ 83605.
    He sees it as a calling to conusel families. Checking the sexual predators of minors in
    my town, there he was, w/his sly grin. I feel as if this guy should be exposed.He is really quite popular. & needs to be taken down a notch. Reading your stuff makes my blood boil.

    • Thank you for commenting regarding this predator. This is an extremely brave action. Also, thank you for listening to your gut about this guy and following up by checking the predators list. It must have made your stomach sink to see him as a convicted sexual offender … Of children. This means he has been convicted of raping at least one minor and part of his parole conditions are most likely attendance at your meetings.

      These types are all over this ‘program’ since they are safe to carry on with their disgusting criminal behavior unimpeded. To think this is just one of millions like him easily induces boiling blood. Thank you for your conscientiousness.

      If your instincts are telling you there is something wrong … There is something very wrong. At rhe very least, he has no business counseling anyone on any aspect of their relationships and/or behavior. This ‘program’ breeds this sick kind of behavior and encourages most people to ignore it. If one sees a problem and excuses or justifies it away, one is complicit in the crime. At least you know you are not an accomplice.

      You can always write an anonymous note to your local police exposing this man. There is also most likely another man (or woman) in your meeting who sees and feels the same as you. Tread carefully on this one though. As you obviously know, the vast majority of steppers will defend their group to the death and deny their instinctual abilities. Perhaps just asking someone you know to be emotionally well (may be difficult to find), if they think this man should be counseling families could bring further insight. They may very well dismiss his behavior and this is unacceptable. They may also come to feel the same as you once they know what you know. He should not be anywhere near minors and vulnerable people.

      If you have a confidant in the meeting, telling them what you know and asking them for guidance may be the way to go. Since I know very little about the group, it is difficult to help.

      After your research findings, ignoring it is not an option. Maybe you could sit down and discuss this with the meeting secretary and ask that the man be barred from attending. The problem with this is that he can just find another meeting (he probably has many already). The other problem with this is that he could become violent towards you. Leaving a note on his car is an option – explaining what you know, what you see and demanding he stop attending your meetings is your right. It is also your right to protect your anonymity for your own personal safety. If the note in his car is your choice, do not tell anyone and do not ever admit to being the person who left the note. If he continues to attend after a note on his car demanding he stop, you then can go to the local police and file a report.

      Thank you again for commenting about this highly distressing situation. I wish I could say this was an unusual circumstance but it is all too common in the ‘rooms’ of 12 step groups. Please be careful, whatever you decide to do, and kindly inform this forum what you decide and the outcome of it. This man should be behind bars.

    • Quicker than a heartbeat I would be on Megan’s List & finding his sorry ass on the list, printing out several copies and plastering them up ALL OVER the AA windows and doors of AA, and all around the block in every direction. It’s easy, and when I think about the steppers I’ve done that too, I imagine the stupid bewildered looks on their faces as they make a mad dash to tear down all the flyers, making excuses up for themselves, and denying it all. Fuckers deserve no less than to be outed publicly. 🙂

    • Hi again Chuck. Please see this video and even $5 toward filmmaking will make a difference. Thank you!

    • hi chuck- I would highly recommend addressing this intuition with your local police and the local AA group. Be prepared…most likely AA will defend the sexual praetor has a “right” to be there” …find me at makeaasafer@gmail.com stop13stepinaa is my blog as well. Good luck. Be courageous! Speak up and Speak out.

    • I am in 83605, and routinely expose these members. I would like to have his identity
      made public. My anon email is charlesminnelli@gmail.com. We may know each other.

  11. Wow, what a list of stories! I have asked some of the men on our Friday night meetings about socializing after the meeting and other time and the general response goes along the lines of: ” it happens once in awhile” or ” Yes, we even know four or five couples how have gotten married.”
    I went to one on the Clubs in NW Indiana a couple of times and it did have more of a social vibe to it even during the meeting. ( had to split the groups into three smaller groups) I never went back, I felt like an outsider!
    I still look at the meetings as something valuable for me! There are some very good people around the tables. Men who have seemed to have rebuilt their lives and almost all attribute it to walking thru the door for the first time. ( and staying) . More later!

    • Of course there are ‘good people’ in AA. There were also good people in the People’s Temple who drank the kool aid, then laid down to die … With their toddler children.

      These ‘good people’ give all credit for the rebuilding of their lives to the 12 step cult religion. This in no way changes that they are stuck in a powerless state of ‘disease’ as their one defining portal to life. No. They experienced spontaneous remission and gave up all their power to AA/NA as it demanded they do to manage their ‘unmanageable’ lives.

      These ‘married couples’ that form here are based on a common defenciency of selfish, self-centered, actor-running-show variety who cannot trust their own thinking. Hey, if you actually believe you cannot trust your own thinking, you are assured to prove yourself right. WRONG. That is all wrong. These marriages are based on the biggest lie of all — that they are ‘powerless.’ In truth, human beings are powerful beyond measure. Moderation is available to you, with alcohol/other drugs … and with this all-or-nothing rubbish foisted upon you in the ‘rooms.’ It’s all preposterous.

      Thank you so much for expressing yourself here Daniel. You obviously have some questions or concerns and something in my blog stories touched a nerve for you. That is most certainly your innate instincts kicking in and waving an enormous red flag for you to heed.

      There is no need to defend those ‘good people’ in AA — of which you are one. There is also no need for you to spend one more moment being dis-empowered rather than EMPOWERED. Most people who abuse substances need a boast up, not a knock down. You sound like one who has been knocked down quite enough thank you very much.

      Thank you again for commenting. Keep coming back.

  12. THANK YOU! I left AA after 7 years of total immersion, when I learned by accident (in a moment of weakness) that I was NOT an alcoholic like it was described in A Doctor’s Opinion, or More About Alcoholism. Yes, I needed some time away from alcohol and I needed to learn some coping skills, and AA provided that. But they also provided the threat that if I didn’t follow all of the ‘suggestions’ I would DIE. And unrelenting shame and guilt, even when I was legitimately victimized I was told to find ‘my part’ in it. Makes sense for a program created by privileged white men. It’s been two years and I haven’t had any desire to get drunk. I went from a young mess of a woman trying to cope with the sudden death of her mother…to a 34-year-old wife, mother, and professional who loves her life. I have way too much to lose if I get drunk, so I don’t! How many other problem drinkers get misdiagnosed by untrained and biased lay people, and coerced into giving up their life to serve in AA, with the threat of DEATH as the alternative? That’s a cult.

    • Congratulations on your freedom and power. The ‘doctors opinion’ and the entire book for that matter is full of nothing but lies that create self-fulfilling prophesies of negativity and self-hatred. There is no such thing as a ‘phenomenon of craving.’

      A cult it most certainly is and always will be.

      Thanks for writing in!

  13. Cougar – I just found your blog about AA ~ I love it. I’m sorry I was late to the table ;-).
    Not only do creeps, weirdos, predators, losers, and crazies inhabit the dark corners of the AA rooms, the program doesn’t even work to get/keep you sober! Any refutable study has found AA is completely ineffective, and in fact can dangerous for those seeking help. It is ab-so-lute-ly disgraceful this crazy and dangerous cult is allowed to continue, and that it gets a complete pass in the media.

    • It certainly is a disgrace and leads one to question the intelligence of Americans. AA exists just about everywhere but it is especially rampant in the USA. The founders were scam artists of the most dangerous kind — the mind-control kind. It’s diabolical and frightening and makes one wonder about the capacity of intelligence of its members. However, the more you study how and why they invented this cult, you know that this is the most brilliant cult ever invented. No one is safe, no matter how intelligent, educated or well-traveled. Vulnerable people will try anything presented as a solution. This cult claims to have helped millions and the disciples will fight to the death holding tight to this claim. It does not work and has nothing to do with substance use issues. It is all about keeping the cult alive, even at the expense of your very life.

      Disciples will claim that the 12 steps were the only thing that helped them. Rubbish. You found a dangerous cult religion disguised as medicine, chanting for you to “keep coming back,” “don’t quit a minute before the miracle happens,” and the most incidious of all “the program works if you work it!” The brainwashing tricks people into thinking they have found the answer when they have been denied access to their ability to think and reason and utilize their own innate power. It’s akin to looking for something, say your car keys … You quit looking once you’ve found them. Whena vulnerable, desperate person walks into a 12 step meeting, he is love-bombed and lied to in order to keep him “coming back.” It is truly criminal.

      The media is completely fooled right along with the justice system. Convicted felons are routinely (and illegally) mandated to 12 step meetings when they should be locked away from the general public. Highly vulnerable people mixed with criminals is a disaster waiting to happen and is happening all over the country, every day. AA writes letters to our media thanking them for their support and help keeping their “anonymity.” BILLshit. The people who run this cult make the media complicit in their crimes against humanity. See link below.

      Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. You’re not late to the table, you’re right on time.

      http://www.aa.org/lang/en/subpage.cfm?page=39

  14. Oh how I pray more parents and vulnerable adults get the opportunity to read your articles. The two following excerpts are especially, potentially life and mind saving:

    Needless to say, this is another phenomenal article with sharp research and observations. It is a service to all to have your work out here Laura. May all who need to see it find their way to it and take the needed steps to protect themselves and their families.

    Bill Wilson, his crew, his book, the cult and all of its off-shoots are a parasitic scourge of society.

    I hate AA and I pity the fools who worship it!

    • Mr. T pitties those fools. Once they’re educated, they should be free to run. Unfortunately, sometimes it’s too late. May Karla rest her beautiful self while Earle rots in hell.

      Thank you for commenting! Please share everywhere.

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