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12 Step Cult Religion Exposed 
So grateful to hear you are still doing this important work!!
Thank you for sharing, Laura! Miss you!! 🥰
I’m heart-broken. Link isn’t working for me.
Not it’s back in an archive! https://web.archive.org/web/20160803114803/http://www.orange-papers.org/
Thank you so much! I never realised that such an important resource could be erased in our world but now that the great library of Alexandria is all digital it makes sense anything can be disappeared with the flick of a switch.
Thank you for your hard work as well. All the best!
/Ziggy
I’ve noticed some groups are more angry than others, but they are angry together, while smiling. It is like watching a movie with another movies audio playing. Something does not match up, yet few people point it out.
I’ve noticed that the people “on meds” tend to segregate themselves and build wicked cliques. Mean spirited formations that lash out at others (especially non medicated people) but then quickly retreat back into their clique to gossip and generally to justify their mean spiritedness, together.
Then the cigarette smokers. Is nicotine addiction really sobriety? Hopefully I do not get banned for suggesting that nicotine is addictive because some AA clique members become very angry to hear such talk.
Then the women. The women talk trash and damage all kinds of peoples lives behind their backs, together as a team, they are mean. Then the 12 steps gives them a million ways to justify their awful abuses. Oh I did it because I’m an alcoholic, blah blah blah. There is always a way to justify their abuse, together as a team.
You have to be careful in AA meetings. There are tons of losers and abusers that band together and the 12 steps has plenty of loose fitted reasonings for being harmful towards others.
I think the two primary visible low-down indicators of somebody that can form a clique to lash out at you are: nicotine addiction, and anti-depressants. These two things infuriate sober people to hear anyone suggest that you cannot be sober if consuming them. They will go into attack and destroy mode if anybody suggests that chain smoking is not sobriety, and that psycho pharmaceuticals are not sobriety.
I’ve noticed some leaders of groups sometimes high on acid, or high on Adderall and they keep claiming years and years of sobriety, leading meetings, being the speaker, and bullying select individuals. They will bully people that are actually sober, and of course they will gather their troops to bully together. Or they will just drink 12 cups of coffee and then be the speaker. And slug down energy drinks because those aren’t too bad. And smoke some weed secretly.
Then you have clubhouses full of characters and power structures and celebrities.
AA is a place that should not be court mandated. It can be very treacherous.
Taking anti- depressants is not a lack of ” sobriety “. My goodness.
If you take anti-depressants and are in the cult of AA then, defacto, you are lacking in sobriety. The blue book …the last word, so to speak, the central text hints at it in innuendo everywhere in its pages. It’s perhaps one more reason why people ought leave once they begin to wake up.
Nice work. Thank you.
Are any prescription medications acceptable for “sobriety”? For example, how about gabapentin for a seizure disorder? It supposedly has the potential for abuse as well, so should neurologists abandon it if has proven to be the best treatment for a patient so far?
That wholly depends on the individual. Maia Szalavitz has done the research and work for us here.
https://daily.jstor.org/on-drugs-and-harm-reduction-with-maia-szalavitz/
I am so glad to see you are alive and kicking Laura! Keep fighting the good fight my friend! I hope you are well! Your old classmate and friend, Rob.